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638: Hop, Hop, Hop

134 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

134 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Relationships, Leadership, Design & UX

AI-Generated Summary

Key Takeaways

  • Court Discovery Evidence: Apple executives created intentionally frightening payment warning screens using phrases like "external website" because it "sounds scary so execs will love it," and displayed developer company names instead of app names to confuse users and reduce external payment adoption rates.
  • Apple Leadership Conflict: Phil Schiller advocated for complying with the court injunction while CFO Luca Maestri convinced CEO Tim Cook to ignore it, resulting in contempt findings. Judge stated Cook "chose poorly" by prioritizing short-term revenue over legal compliance and long-term platform strategy.
  • Alternative Payment Economics: Epic charges zero percent fees on first one million dollars revenue per app annually, then twelve percent after. Stripe and Patreon immediately implemented one-click external payment flows using Apple Pay on web, demonstrating minimal friction compared to Apple's thirty percent in-app purchase fees.
  • Ubiquiti Home Networking Setup: For typical home installations requiring wired access points, purchase Cloud Gateway Max or Fiber router (two hundred dollars), Ultra eight-port PoE switch (under two hundred dollars), and two to three U7 Lite access points (one hundred dollars each). Avoid Ubiquiti for wireless mesh needs.
  • Student Technology Circumvention: Middle school students systematically bypass content filters through collaborative spreadsheets shared among forty users, selling ad space and appointing moderators. One student discovered alternate Google login paths by following "learn more" links on blocked pages, demonstrating persistent workaround discovery regardless of restrictions implemented.

What It Covers

Apple faces contempt ruling for defying court injunction on App Store anti-steering rules. Judge reveals internal emails showing executives deliberately designed scary payment screens to discourage external purchases, while Epic and competitors rush to implement alternative payment systems.

Key Questions Answered

  • Court Discovery Evidence: Apple executives created intentionally frightening payment warning screens using phrases like "external website" because it "sounds scary so execs will love it," and displayed developer company names instead of app names to confuse users and reduce external payment adoption rates.
  • Apple Leadership Conflict: Phil Schiller advocated for complying with the court injunction while CFO Luca Maestri convinced CEO Tim Cook to ignore it, resulting in contempt findings. Judge stated Cook "chose poorly" by prioritizing short-term revenue over legal compliance and long-term platform strategy.
  • Alternative Payment Economics: Epic charges zero percent fees on first one million dollars revenue per app annually, then twelve percent after. Stripe and Patreon immediately implemented one-click external payment flows using Apple Pay on web, demonstrating minimal friction compared to Apple's thirty percent in-app purchase fees.
  • Ubiquiti Home Networking Setup: For typical home installations requiring wired access points, purchase Cloud Gateway Max or Fiber router (two hundred dollars), Ultra eight-port PoE switch (under two hundred dollars), and two to three U7 Lite access points (one hundred dollars each). Avoid Ubiquiti for wireless mesh needs.
  • Student Technology Circumvention: Middle school students systematically bypass content filters through collaborative spreadsheets shared among forty users, selling ad space and appointing moderators. One student discovered alternate Google login paths by following "learn more" links on blocked pages, demonstrating persistent workaround discovery regardless of restrictions implemented.

Notable Moment

Internal Apple analysis group hired to justify thirty percent commission concluded developer tools warrant three to sixteen percent fees and discovery services five to fourteen percent. Judge determined this bottoms-up study was created purely as courtroom showpiece rather than genuine pricing analysis, with the plan backfiring spectacularly during testimony.

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Episode Transcript

So, as mentioned a few times in the past, my kid, for his schooling uses Chromebooks like many American children. And everything's on the Chromebook as we discussed a little bit in our in our school special. Obviously, because he is my kid, he is going to pay attention in school to the minimum degree required. And the rest of the time is goofing off on his Chromebook. Who does that sound like? Yeah. Right? And it's fine because, like, he gets decent grades and he doesn't cause problems in the class. So the teachers don't care. Like, they I'm sure I'm sure the teachers all know he's goofing off on the Chromebook and they they just have bigger fish to fry. So, like, they don't they don't bother him. He doesn't bother them. So, anyway. The Chromebooks though have various, you know, like school content blocking and filtering software installed. Now, what do middle schoolers want to see on a computer? It's nothing harmful. They're not looking up like bad adult stuff. They just wanna like watch YouTube and play games. Like, that's it. It's all about YouTube and games. That's That is like the holy grail is I wanna goof off and watch YouTube. I wanna play some stupid web game that, you know, I can make this Chromebook less horrible for myself. That's all they wanna do. So, my kid has, throughout his middle school career so far, done all sorts of things to try to evade and evade the blocks to the point where even he was like running like a spreadsheet that was shared between, like, 40 other kids, that would, like, link out to unblocked games. And as they would get blocked, they would update them. And he was basically running an open source project. Like, he he was, like, he was, like, the moderator and he was hiring, like, other moderators, trading them, like, lollipops and stuff. He, at one point, was selling ad space in the spreadsheet. Like, it was pretty impressive. Wait. Ad space, what was being advertised? Other spreadsheets by other kids. That's incredible. Like a podcast app that runs ads for podcasts in it. Right? Yeah. Can you believe? God, he really is your kid. Oh, yeah. I know. And I I told right from the start, this so he doesn't do this anymore. He's moved on to other distractions. But right from the start from that one, I told him, like, listen. I know at some point I'm gonna get called into the principal's office to talk about this. And I'm like, I just want you to be just promise me two things. Don't let people, like, post bad things about other people. And don't enable cheating. If you don't do those things, I got your back. So, fortunately, and he, oh my God, he was so clever with it. Like, he, you know, the teachers at the front of the room, they have some kind of, like, …

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  • by Squarespace

    Sponsors: Squarespace
  • by Apple

    Stripe and Patreon immediately implemented one-click external payment flows using Apple Pay on web
  • by Patreon

    Stripe and Patreon immediately implemented one-click external payment flows using Apple Pay on web
  • by DeleteMe

    Sponsors: DeleteMe
  • by Stripe

    Stripe and Patreon immediately implemented one-click external payment flows using Apple Pay on web

Gear

  • by Ubiquiti

    For typical home installations requiring wired access points, purchase Cloud Gateway Max or Fiber router (two hundred dollars)
  • by Ubiquiti

    For typical home installations requiring wired access points, purchase Cloud Gateway Max or Fiber router (two hundred dollars)
  • by Ubiquiti

    purchase Cloud Gateway Max or Fiber router (two hundred dollars), Ultra eight-port PoE switch (under two hundred dollars)
  • by Ubiquiti

    two to three U7 Lite access points (one hundred dollars each)

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