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20VC: NVIDIA Crushes Quarter and Buys Hugging Face | OpenAI Cuts Off Cursor | Instinct Hits $2.5BN Valuation and The Race for AI Assistants | Cognition Raises at $46BN, Linear $2.5BN and Clay $7BN

77 min episode · 3 min read
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Rory Driscoll,Jason Lampkin

Episode

77 min

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3 min

Topics

Relationships, Investing, Startups

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Key Takeaways

  • NVIDIA Demand Signal: NVIDIA guided 70% revenue growth for fiscal year ending January 2028, well above the 44% analysts projected. The only three risks that could derail this are hyperscalers stopping compute purchases, financing structures collapsing, or end-user demand failing to materialize. All three remain stable, making NVIDIA's forward trajectory the clearest signal that AI infrastructure spending continues accelerating for at least 12 more months.
  • Open Source as Compute Strategy: NVIDIA's $12.9B Hugging Face acquisition follows a clear economic logic: open-source models operate at roughly 30% gross margins versus 70% for closed models like OpenAI or Anthropic. Lower margins for model providers mean more revenue flows to compute. For GPU sellers, promoting open weights directly expands the addressable market by keeping more dollars in the infrastructure layer rather than the application layer.
  • AI Cyber Risk is Immediate: The OpenAI-Hugging Face security breach involved 500–1,000 agents running persistently, combining intelligence with continuous operation to find and chain together system vulnerabilities undetected for weeks. Every CISO at a Fortune 500 company should treat this as a transition from bow-and-arrow attacks to missile-level threats. Open-source models are roughly six months behind frontier labs, giving organizations months, not years, to upgrade defenses.
  • Compound Startups Are Now the Baseline: AI coding tools have increased software output roughly 100x, forcing every startup to ship across the full product stack rather than owning a single point solution. Companies like Owner.com are building every feature a restaurant operator needs simultaneously. Startups that raise less capital, particularly European companies with $3M rounds, face structural disadvantage against US counterparts deploying tens of millions to compound product surface area at speed.
  • Agent-Friendly Products Win Procurement: Clay at $7B and Linear at $2.5B share a common trait: AI agents autonomously select them over competitors when executing GTM and engineering workflows. Agents test APIs, evaluate reliability, and default to products with clean integrations. This creates a durable moat because agent selection is merit-based and cannot be influenced by sales relationships, making early agent-layer adoption a compounding distribution advantage that is difficult for competitors to reverse.

What It Covers

Harry Stebbings, Rory Driscoll, and Jason Lemkin break down NVIDIA's record $96B quarter and near-$13B Hugging Face acquisition, OpenAI cutting off Cursor, the AI assistant category led by Instinct at a $2.5B valuation, and late-stage rounds for Cognition at $46B, Clay at $7B, and Linear at $2.5B.

Key Questions Answered

  • NVIDIA Demand Signal: NVIDIA guided 70% revenue growth for fiscal year ending January 2028, well above the 44% analysts projected. The only three risks that could derail this are hyperscalers stopping compute purchases, financing structures collapsing, or end-user demand failing to materialize. All three remain stable, making NVIDIA's forward trajectory the clearest signal that AI infrastructure spending continues accelerating for at least 12 more months.
  • Open Source as Compute Strategy: NVIDIA's $12.9B Hugging Face acquisition follows a clear economic logic: open-source models operate at roughly 30% gross margins versus 70% for closed models like OpenAI or Anthropic. Lower margins for model providers mean more revenue flows to compute. For GPU sellers, promoting open weights directly expands the addressable market by keeping more dollars in the infrastructure layer rather than the application layer.
  • AI Cyber Risk is Immediate: The OpenAI-Hugging Face security breach involved 500–1,000 agents running persistently, combining intelligence with continuous operation to find and chain together system vulnerabilities undetected for weeks. Every CISO at a Fortune 500 company should treat this as a transition from bow-and-arrow attacks to missile-level threats. Open-source models are roughly six months behind frontier labs, giving organizations months, not years, to upgrade defenses.
  • Compound Startups Are Now the Baseline: AI coding tools have increased software output roughly 100x, forcing every startup to ship across the full product stack rather than owning a single point solution. Companies like Owner.com are building every feature a restaurant operator needs simultaneously. Startups that raise less capital, particularly European companies with $3M rounds, face structural disadvantage against US counterparts deploying tens of millions to compound product surface area at speed.
  • Agent-Friendly Products Win Procurement: Clay at $7B and Linear at $2.5B share a common trait: AI agents autonomously select them over competitors when executing GTM and engineering workflows. Agents test APIs, evaluate reliability, and default to products with clean integrations. This creates a durable moat because agent selection is merit-based and cannot be influenced by sales relationships, making early agent-layer adoption a compounding distribution advantage that is difficult for competitors to reverse.
  • Outcome-Based Pricing Reshapes Enterprise SaaS: Salesforce's commitment to multi-surface access via Claude MCP and its acquisition of Intercom signals a structural shift in enterprise software from seat-based to outcome-based pricing. Salesforce currently spends $300M annually on Anthropic, roughly 5% of its $6B engineering budget. For investors evaluating legacy SaaS, the key question is whether the system of record can deliver measurable outcomes, or whether agents built on top will capture that value instead.

Notable Moment

Jason Lemkin described how his AI agents refused to use any GTM tool except Clay, repeating the recommendation six times across different tasks. He concluded that when an agent insists on a specific product with that consistency, it functions as a stronger product signal than any human sales process or analyst report could provide.

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Episode Transcript

This intense demand for compute is gonna continue for at least another twelve months. If NVIDIA's crushing it, everyone's gonna crush it. That sound you hear is the Google free cash flow and the Oracle free cash flow just disappearing down the drain, man. Now would be a good time to panic about cyber. Literally, the amount of code we're building is 100x. We didn't realize we would all be building compound companies. Again, our job is to sniff out winners, stuff capital into them, and broadly speaking, stay out of the way unless they're literally crashing the car. That's the job in a nutshell. This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings. Now this is the must listen show every single week. All the biggest pieces of news broken down for you by some of the best investors in the world. That is obviously Roryo Driscoll and Jason Lampkin. Now what are we discussing today? NVIDIA. They deliver record $96,000,000,000 quarter. Jensen hits it out of the park, baby, and NVIDIA nears $12,900,000,000 deal for Hugging Face, the greatest pivot of all time. We then move to Sam Altman or as the wonderful Elon Musk calls him, scam Altman as they cut off Cursor. And then Mike Schruhl's brilliant response, well, it is only 5% of traffic. And then finally, we finish on the talk of the town, Instinct, the latest and greatest from Silicon Valley, the AI assistant that has raised at a $2,500,000,000 valuation and has everyone very excited. This and so much more in today's episode. But before we dive into the show today, you have the idea, but with most AI tools, you hit a wall. The setup, the config, the gap between what you pictured and what you actually ship. Well, Base forty four is where that wall disappears. You describe it? Yeah. Base forty four builds it. Apps, websites, AI agents, real working products, built in minutes using nothing but plain language. And it's all batteries included. The back end, the database, the authentication, hosting, the heavy lifting is handled, so you just really stay in the flow. This doesn't just take the busy work off your plate, but it gives you an advantage and pushes you past what you thought you could build alone. So in this market, fast is the baseline. To win, you just have to be first. Base 44 is that edge, the move that skips the troubleshooting and gets you straight to the breakthrough. Build your next thing at base44.com. That's base44.com. While base44 turns ideas into apps, Plort turns conversations into insights. Founders and operators spend way too much time every week jumping between meetings, investor calls, brainstorms, customer conversations, and then trying to piece everything back together afterwards. And that's why I've been using Plaud. Plaud instantly captures conversations, voice notes, meetings, random ideas with one press, and then turns them into clean summaries, action items, mind maps, and searchable notes that you can actually come …

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